Legislature(2013 - 2014)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/12/2014 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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+ HJR 22 FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 244 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON FEDERAL MGT AREAS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 244                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act extending the termination date of the                                                                              
     Citizens' Advisory Commission on Federal Management                                                                        
     Areas in Alaska; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:37:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze noted  the birthday  of President  Abraham                                                                    
Lincoln.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WES  KELLER introduced the bill  with a brief                                                                    
description.  He stated  that the  Constitution advised  the                                                                    
use, conservation and the  development of natural resources.                                                                    
He informed  the committee that Alaskans  had rights related                                                                    
to  their natural  resources. The  rights  were defined  and                                                                    
laid out  in both federal  and state levels.  He experienced                                                                    
an erosion  of the rights  in Alaska, with 66  percent owned                                                                    
by  the federal  government.  He stated  that the  Citizens'                                                                    
Advisory Commission  on Federal Areas' (CACFA)  was involved                                                                    
in multiple  issues, including the right  to access Alaska's                                                                    
resources,  water rights,  personal use,  substance, mineral                                                                    
development, access to rural cabins,  management of fish and                                                                    
game  and  transportation  planning.  He  noted  that  CACFA                                                                    
retained a  good working relationship with  federal agencies                                                                    
operating in  Alaska. He noted  that the annual  report laid                                                                    
out the efforts  of CACFA.  He mentioned  a CACFA conference                                                                    
about  federal overreach  including  invited testimony.  All                                                                    
testifiers  were   required  to  present  a   solution.  The                                                                    
testimony   was  captured   on  record   and  available   by                                                                    
transcript online.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:44:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Keller described  the commission. Regulations                                                                    
that  eroded rights  were carefully  tracked. He  noted that                                                                    
Stan Leaphart worked hard to  track the various agencies. He                                                                    
detailed  the  recent critical  habitat  label  of the  Cook                                                                    
Inlet  that resulted  from the  Endangered  Species Act.  He                                                                    
explained  that the  furlough  prevented  response from  the                                                                    
federal agencies regarding the summit's findings.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:46:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Keller  noted  the names  of  the  Citizen's                                                                    
Advisory Commission on Federal  Areas. The members worked on                                                                    
a volunteer  basis in  Anchorage. He  listed the  members as                                                                    
Rod Arno,  Senator John Coghill,  Mark Fish,  Teresa Hanson,                                                                    
Charlie  Lean, Kathleen  Liska, Mike  Meekin, Warren  Olsen,                                                                    
Ron Somerville,  Susan Smith, Frank  Woods, and  himself. He                                                                    
spoke to the commitment of his fellow members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Keller  stated  that   the  bill  moved  the                                                                    
commission's sunset date to 2021.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze added  that the  budget would  continue to                                                                    
support the commission if a decision was made to extend it.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STAN  LEAPHART,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   CITIZEN'S  ADVISORY                                                                    
COMMISSION ON  FEDERAL AREAS (via  teleconference) testified                                                                    
on behalf of the legislation. He  had 8 of the 12 commission                                                                    
members  with him  working  on a  follow-up  for the  August                                                                    
summit. The  group refined the  recommendations seen  in the                                                                    
annual  report.  He  pointed out  that  the  commission  had                                                                    
invited   federal  agency   representatives  to   gather  in                                                                    
October,  but the  national government's  furlough prevented                                                                    
the meeting.  He met with  regional directors of  the United                                                                    
States   National  Park   Service,   the   Bureau  of   Land                                                                    
Management,  the  United  States   Forest  Service  and  the                                                                    
Secretary of the Interior Special Assistant.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Leaphart informed  the  committee  that the  commission                                                                    
shared the  transcript from  the summit  with a  request for                                                                    
feedback.  The  commission  did receive  feedback  from  the                                                                    
United  States National  Park Service.  He pointed  out that                                                                    
work  with federal  issues was  increasing  daily. He  noted                                                                    
four major  management plans that  were underway.  The plans                                                                    
would dictate the uses of  the lands by the stakeholders. He                                                                    
noted interest in the stakeholder's concerns.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  about  the  number of  personnel                                                                    
working in Mr. Leaphart's office.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Leaphart replied  that two people worked  in his office.                                                                    
He  stated that  the  office served  the  general public  by                                                                    
answering  pertinent  questions.   Employees  also  reviewed                                                                    
proposed management plans. The  work load involved reviewing                                                                    
the  National   Park  Service  Compendium.   Attendance  for                                                                    
meetings   involving  federal   agencies   and  the   public                                                                    
comprised  another   piece  of  the  workload.   The  office                                                                    
monitored  the activities  of the  four  major federal  land                                                                    
management agencies.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  noted  one full-time  and  one  part-time                                                                    
position listed in the fiscal note.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Leaphart replied  that  the  part-time position  worked                                                                    
full time for nine months.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara asked how the $285 thousand was spent.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze referred to the fiscal note.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:53:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  clarified that $230 thousand  was spent                                                                    
on salary for one and one-half positions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Leaphart  clarified that the  $230 thousand  covered one                                                                    
and three-quarters positions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman  asked about  the recommendations  made to                                                                    
the  legislature.  He  wondered which  recommendations  were                                                                    
acted on and implemented in the last couple of years.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.    Leaphart   replied    that   the    commission   made                                                                    
recommendations  regarding  a   local  hire  program,  which                                                                    
involved  working with  a congressional  delegation to  make                                                                    
changes  in  the  program.   The  program  employed  several                                                                    
hundred Alaskans  seasonally. Although  the program  did not                                                                    
involve  action by  the legislature,  it involved  action by                                                                    
the congressional delegation. He  mentioned a new task force                                                                    
assembled  by  the  Bureau  of  Land  Management  addressing                                                                    
placer mining policy.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Neuman explained  that he  wanted to  know about                                                                    
the commission's accomplishments.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  considered it an accomplishment  to stop a                                                                    
federal process. He wondered if  the commission had halted a                                                                    
federal process.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Keller  replied that  he took  testimony from                                                                    
around   the  state   regarding   federal  overreach.   Some                                                                    
successes  involved  interactions   with  federal  agencies.                                                                    
Policy  changes were  made as  a result.  He noted  that Mr.                                                                    
Leaphart worked  with state agencies  such as  Department of                                                                    
Natural Resources.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Keller stated  that recommendations were made                                                                    
by   the   commission   regarding   federal   lawsuits.   He                                                                    
acknowledged that the Department of  Law did not always heed                                                                    
recommendations made by CACFA.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:58:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  asked  about the  address,  3700                                                                    
Airport Road.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Leaphart replied that the  3700 Airport Road was located                                                                    
at the corner of University Avenue and Airport Way.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg applauded  the commission's  work                                                                    
on  the wood  bison. He  found some  federal recommendations                                                                    
inconsistent. He  wondered if  the issues  were voted  on by                                                                    
the members.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Keller  replied that  both the  annual report                                                                    
and a  report on the  summit were included in  the committee                                                                    
back   up.   The   report   did   not   include   commission                                                                    
endorsements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  stated  that  reports  generally                                                                    
included majority votes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   noted    mention   of   recommending                                                                    
litigation  and fighting  federal  overreach. He  understood                                                                    
that  the governor  also supported  the  movement. He  asked                                                                    
what  the commission  was doing  to  enhance the  governor's                                                                    
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:02:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Leaphart  clarified that  the commission  worked closely                                                                    
with  ANILCA (Alaska  National  Interest Lands  Conservation                                                                    
Act).  The program  reviewed  similar  management plans  and                                                                    
regulations  and  weighed them  against  the  effect of  the                                                                    
state's   management   prerogatives.    He   mentioned   the                                                                    
commission's  newsletter and  website.  The information  was                                                                    
available to stakeholders and public  groups in an effort to                                                                    
incorporate their  views. He provided an  example related to                                                                    
a bath house in the Tongass National Forest.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze viewed the commission  in the same way that                                                                    
he viewed  the Minerals  or Forest Advisory  Commissions. He                                                                    
suggested that the state would  engage in fewer lawsuits and                                                                    
press releases  about them with  less federal  overreach. He                                                                    
noted that the state was in a reactive mode.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze closed public testimony                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:05:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello  discussed FN 1 from  the Department                                                                    
of Natural Resources  for $285,300 from FY 15  through FY 20                                                                    
for one full-time and one part-time position.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman  MOVED to REPORT  HB 244 out  of committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB  244 was  REPORTED  out  of committee  with  a "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and  with   a  previously  published  fiscal                                                                    
impact note: FN1 (DNR).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:06:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR 22 Public Testimony - Mike Coons.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Alabama.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Arizona.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Florida.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Georgia.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Idaho.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Kansas.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Pennsylvania.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents South Carolina.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents USA Convention of States.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Virginia.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents West Virginia.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Supporting documents Wisconsin.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR Supporting documents New Mexico.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HB 244 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 244
HB 244 Supporting Document~CACFA 2013 Annual Report.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 244
HJR 22 Public Testimony.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Public Testimony Don Brand.pdf HFIN 2/12/2014 1:30:00 PM
HJR 22